October 13, 2011 3:35 PM

Occupy Wall Street: More popular than you think

By
Brian Montopoli
Topics
Economy
occupy wall street new york (Credit: AP Photo/Andrew Burton)

The conservative criticism of the Occupy Wall Street movement is that it is a "growing mob" (House majority leader Eric Cantor) of "shiftless protestors" (The Tea Party Express) engaged in "class warfare" (GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain) whose grievances - whatever they are - are far outside the political mainstream.

The polls don't back that up.

A new survey out from Time Magazine found that 54 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of the protests, while just 23 percent have a negative impression. An NBC/Wall Street Journal survey, meanwhile, found that 37 percent of respondents "tend to support" the movement, while only 18 percent "tend to oppose" it.

The findings suggest that the right's portrait of the movement as a collection of lazy hippies who need to stop whining - to "take a shower and get a job" (Bill O'Reilly) - isn't resonating with most Americans.

That's because while the protesters' aims are vague - Bill Clinton said Wednesday that they need to start advocating specific political goals - their frustrations are easily identifiable and widely shared. The Occupy movement may be a big tent (one with room for opposition to fracking, calls for campaign finance reform, and a host of other positions), but nearly everyone involved says they are angry that a small group of wealthy Americans have grown increasingly rich while "the other 99 percent" have been left behind.

That's a belief that seems to be shared by Americans across the political spectrum. In 2010, as CBSNews.com reported in a story on the income and wealth divide last month, researchers and Harvard and Duke asked Americans how they thought wealth is spread among income groups, as well as how they thought it should be spread. Overwhelmingly, Americans said they wanted a more equitable distribution of wealth; they also underestimated just how large the wealth divide has grown. (See chart below.)

Table - Wealth Divide (Credit: CBS)

As the study's authors noted, "All groups - even the wealthiest respondents - desired a more equal distribution of wealth than what they estimated the current United States level to be." Republicans, Democrats, independents, as well as rich, middle class and poor all said that wealth shouldn't be so concentrated among the highest earners.

That goes a long way toward explaining the Occupy movement's potential staying power and cultural resonance. While most Americans wouldn't camp out in the freewheeling quasi-society that has sprung up in Lower Manhattan, the vast majority seem to share the protesters' sense that the economic deck is stacked. They've seen the government bail out the banks that helped create the economic crisis, seen corporate profits hit all-time high after all-time high, seen CEO pay balloon to 350 times that of the average worker. They've seen average hourly earnings (adjusted for inflation) stagnate for half a century while CEO pay increased 300 percent since 1990. They've seen social mobility decline and friends and neighbors join the ranks of the long-term unemployed while the wealthiest Americans have had their tax burden reduced and have increased their share of the nation's wealth. (For the details behind these statistics, see the extraordinary valuable graphics put together by Business Insider.)

There's no denying that some of the protesters fit critics' characterization of them - many, though certainly not all, of the most committed demonstrators are the sort of outspoken young leftists that O'Reilly seems to disdain. And there's no question there is a wide variety of opinions about how to move forward - both within the movement and the public at large. But the polls and the data suggest that the protesters' underlying concerns resonate widely. Occupy Wall Street may have an uncertain future - demonstrators in New York may be de facto evicted Friday morning - but it clearly seems to have tapped into a widespread sense that the economic system is out of whack. And that makes it far more difficult for critics to blithely dismiss the protesters as outside the American mainstream.

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  • Brian Montopoli

    Brian Montopoli is the senior political reporter at CBSNews.com.

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by miami_don October 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT
by worktogether October 13, 2011 6:15 PM EDT

yes they do. You are only talking for yourself idiot. I make 20 times more then you . And im calling you a liar , follower

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First, you have no idea how much I make. However, it is unlikely that anyone bragging about how much they make is really making that much. There is a certain point in the food chain that it doesn't mean anything except to you and the company that pays you.

Which is exactly the point about your post; so please don't pee down my back and tell me it is raining because your comments do not match who you claim to be.
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by ken1dall October 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT
Wealth, for the most part, is earned not distributed. These protesters need to get over it.
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by enriquieGonzales October 13, 2011 7:08 PM EDT
Jesse Jackson Jr....doesnt think so, 40k paid to every unemployed Ameircan..he is a National Treasure....why didnt I think of that...tell me when it passes so I can go quit my job.
by garddthetruth October 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT
Obviously they are not popular at all since all the polls show that the GOP is kicking the ***** of the DEMOS in almost all the congressional elections and Senate races for 2012 and that Obama is dead meat. Also obviously if they were popular there would be more people with them. The tea party has MILLIONS not hundreds or a few thousand. The press bashed the TEA party day after day yet never any arrest and never any violence and never any trash to pick up. Even after all the Media trashing of the tea party the still won the election the largest landslide in history and they still have strong 37 % support. REAL support not fake support like these idiots. Most in America want the stupid GOV spending to stop, the Special class Unions to stop getting special class treatment, and for us to pay our way not pass the debt onto our children. Not all in America are monsters like the DEMOCRATS are.
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by enriquieGonzales October 13, 2011 7:06 PM EDT
Not all Democrats are Idiotic Monsters, Umm, Jesse Jackson Jr...wants everyone Unemployed to be paid 40k a year, try to pass a bill...mmm...bad example. How about the congress Woman on MSNBC who wants Obama to treat Republicans as Traitors and Pass everything anyway. At least the Democrats know they are Commmunist and dont hide it well.
by garddthetruth October 13, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
@enriquieGonzale:

maybe you miss read what I said . I repeat not all Americans are monsters like the Democrats are.
by worktogether October 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT
reuters is a joke. They believe the way to win an election is to fix machines, make everyone think republicans have allready one. lie about the facts. All the writers for reuters are second to most anyway. They dont have anyone that really is very good at writing.
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by garddthetruth October 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT
Well it could be worse they could be the NY times where every story is a lie or twisted truth out of all proportions or giving away national security secretes or they could be like CBS when they had DAN the LIAR Rather or hell like MSNBC who would not know or care to tell the truth if it bit them on the nose.
by saiditbfore October 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT
I've looked at some of the tea party sites-all they do is get money-that's it. They offer some information. It seems to be a leaderless money-grubbing group. How much of that money can the teaparty website keep? How much actually goes to the "purpose", and how does anyone know it actually gets there? If it does get "there" then what are they doing with it? hmmm...no accountability amongst republicans...seems normal.
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by louiville12 October 13, 2011 6:56 PM EDT
What a bunch of loons ROFLMAO

Occupy Atlanta Silences Civil Rights Hero John Lewis!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI&feature=related

They even need someone to tell them what to say LOL
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by alwayskickedoff October 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT
This Bowel Movement is also Racist Lou
by enriquieGonzales October 13, 2011 7:04 PM EDT
Thanks for Sharing, thats some scary stuff. So the Democrats are Embracing these Mindless Morons. God were more in trouble than I thought.
by enriquieGonzales October 13, 2011 6:56 PM EDT
Its Ironic, these are the people who voted for Obama, and 3 years later there crying and whining for Socialism. I didnt realize how many losers are really out there, makes me feel good to know that I am part of the higher Escelon, and Ill teach my kids about all these losers tearing up our parks, pooping on police cars and breaking laws. Sure makes you want to embrace the Tea Party and never let go.
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by magnumdr October 13, 2011 6:55 PM EDT
There should be a new law forbidding anyone from trading or selling stocks quickley, without paying a hefty fee for doing so.
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by saiditbfore October 13, 2011 7:04 PM EDT
At first glance that seems like a good idea, but so does 100mph vehicles, or free electricity--you don't know the outcome of the idea...cause and effect; we may be worse off due to all the other paper-wall systems that have been put into place.
by 76SpiritOf October 13, 2011 6:55 PM EDT
Well guys its time to join the movement!

America is great and so is capitalism. I would like to offer my skill to help organize this movement. Can you imagine how much the top 1% will pay me to stop organizing this when it becomes a dominant movement in politics?

I could make billions by creating a huge voting block that controls the electorate.

I love capitalism!!!!!
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by enriquieGonzales October 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT
Pooping on Police Cars, getting arrested and Breaking laws in every single city is going to be the Dominant Movement.....Bowel Movement. Vote Obama and Join the Bowel Movements.
by alwayskickedoff October 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT
I think you lost the "organizer" title to Comrad Obama
by ___One_American_______ October 13, 2011 6:54 PM EDT
The problem is still, always has been, and always will be - the government having too much power and too much taxpayer money.

This is what is causing high unemployment, and declining incomes, and unmanageable government debt.


This video explains - what the protester are ignoring - the FACTS.

Economic Freedom in America Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fWQnguR1E
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