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Nevermind, arn nailed it.
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Take screenshots (Shift+Command+4 on OS X) then attach them to an email and send it.
Nevermind, arn nailed it.
Thanks. Will do.
It is simply giving me an error report and refusing to accept anything.
It only makes a difference on larger resolutions. Fluid HD always expands to fill the whole width of the screen, while Fluid is the same as Fixed but with a larger maximum width.
Xenforo's approach is to simply toggle between fixed-width and full width.
Oh I see now. Fluid expands to fill the entire width, but to a certain limit. Fluid HD has no limit.
Search failures for imported subject lines, as previously noted.
Recent activity
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/members/grahamperrin.109331/ under Postings I a series of posts unrelated to me. That's the known issue, with @arn investigating:
Side note: I wonder whether the next import will cause @arn to be linked and if so, whether other uses of @whoever will link correctly.
Also:
– and that probably explains why http://xenforums.macrumors.com/recent-activity/ shows me alone active during the past seventy-something minutes.
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-4#post-21325112 the thumbnail of each attachment appears wrong.
I expect the thumbnail to be a scaled down version of the image, without cropping.
This need not be a showstopper.
I'm shown as a new member who joined in 2007.
Recent activity
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/members/grahamperrin.109331/ under Postings I a series of posts unrelated to me. That's the known issue, with @arn investigating:
Side note: I wonder whether the next import will cause @arn to be linked and if so, whether other uses of @whoever will link correctly.
Also:
– and that probably explains why http://xenforums.macrumors.com/recent-activity/ shows me alone active during the past seventy-something minutes.
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-4#post-21325112 the thumbnail of each attachment appears wrong.
I expect the thumbnail to be a scaled down version of the image, without cropping.
This need not be a showstopper.
I'm shown as a new member who joined in 2007.
Okay; I shut down my computer completely and tried a full re-start.
(Normally, I simply let it sleep). That has worked, so now I am able to access the 'new' site as an actual member.
Many thanks for your support, suggestions and advice.
Now, a few queries.
Does this password remain in place, or what password will be required when the migration occurs?
Re the PMs, yes, they are indeed in place - but rather differently configured - and differently names, ('conversations') in the new system.
However, in the old system it was easy to tell the difference between sent and received PMs, and you also had a colour coded bar which was a very useful reminder of how many you had sent, received, and were allowed to keep saved. That appears to be missing - or maybe I am just not seeing it - in the new system.
Is there a cap on the numbers of PMs we are allowed?
If so, where is this noted on the new system?
(Normally, I simply let it sleep). That has worked, so now I am able to access the 'new' site as an actual member.
Many thanks for your support, suggestions and advice.
Now, a few queries.
Does this password remain in place, or what password will be required when the migration occurs?
Re the PMs, yes, they are indeed in place - but rather differently configured - and differently names, ('conversations') in the new system.
However, in the old system it was easy to tell the difference between sent and received PMs, and you also had a colour coded bar which was a very useful reminder of how many you had sent, received, and were allowed to keep saved. That appears to be missing - or maybe I am just not seeing it - in the new system.
Is there a cap on the numbers of PMs we are allowed?
If so, where is this noted on the new system?
Google integration
Error 400, OAuth2, origin_mismatch
I assume that the mismatch is to be expected whilst we test xenforums.macrumors.com
Error 400, OAuth2, origin_mismatch
I assume that the mismatch is to be expected whilst we test xenforums.macrumors.com
Probably. I'll double check. Some of that integration might have to be further tested when we are final domain.
I don't believe there's a limit.
The migrated PMs look a bit messy. But the new PMs look nicer. Try sending me a PM and I'll reply and you'll see how it looks. It looks more like a thread.
Unfortunately, the password migration is weird, and seems a Xenforo migration bug. I'm afraid you (or anyone else affected) will probably have to do a password reset email if your password doesn't work.
Yep, we'll rebuild the search index on Sunday.
Not sure if it works retroactively.
unfortunately, Xenforo crops to a square thumbnail. I agree, it's not ideal. But I haven't found a quick fix to that.
looking at this.
arn
Thanks for all of the above.
WYSIWIG draft: no list of files that have been uploaded
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-5#post-21361303 was the result of me uploading the same file twice.
In a blink, the grey rectangle (top right) is gone and all that remains is the hint to close the upload dialogue.
No trace of the uploaded files until after the post. I guess that the uploaded files might show as attachments if the author chooses more options and then preview, but that's not immediately intuitive.
Again, not a showstopper. Just noting the behaviour.
About the person: falls incorrectly under the person's occupation
At my http://xenforums.macrumors.com/account/ in the 'About You:' field, two words:
Golden Mashter
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/members/grahamperrin.109331/ Golden Mashter falls under my occupation.
Style, not a showstopper.
WYSIWIG draft: no list of files that have been uploaded
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-5#post-21361303 was the result of me uploading the same file twice.
In a blink, the grey rectangle (top right) is gone and all that remains is the hint to close the upload dialogue.
No trace of the uploaded files until after the post. I guess that the uploaded files might show as attachments if the author chooses more options and then preview, but that's not immediately intuitive.
Again, not a showstopper. Just noting the behaviour.
About the person: falls incorrectly under the person's occupation
At my http://xenforums.macrumors.com/account/ in the 'About You:' field, two words:
Golden Mashter
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/members/grahamperrin.109331/ Golden Mashter falls under my occupation.
Style, not a showstopper.
Loss of white space from code when pasting
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-5#post-21361304 appears correct only because I made corrections before posting.
The dataloss is easily overlooked.
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-5#post-21361305 is the incorrect result of pasting the correct text into the 'General Code' field.
Sorry … right now I can't get my head around whether this will be (a) a migration issue, or (b) a post-migration issue, occurring only during edition.
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-5#post-21361304 appears correct only because I made corrections before posting.
The dataloss is easily overlooked.
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...sign-and-testing.1883492/page-5#post-21361305 is the incorrect result of pasting the correct text into the 'General Code' field.
Sorry … right now I can't get my head around whether this will be (a) a migration issue, or (b) a post-migration issue, occurring only during edition.
A few thoughts on the forum home page. Sorry to make these so late.
delete 'LATEST REPLIES' insert 'Latest posts'
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com under LATEST REPLIES some of the content is not a reply to anything; it's an opening post. So a better heading might be:
UPPERCASE, Initial Caps or Sentence case
In lieu of
I suggest
Ambiguity
To the right of the statistics, the icon is ambiguous. And without a written heading I can't tell whether it's a list of:
Separators and ellipses
I suggest showing a line above the section that includes statistics and the ambiguous icon.
Also, to complement the very pale + sign at far right above each line of separation, I suggest an ellipsis below the line, at the left, appearing bold and black (because the obscured sub-forum headings, when revealed, will be bold and black). If not black, then match the colour for the section.
delete 'LATEST REPLIES' insert 'Latest posts'
At http://xenforums.macrumors.com under LATEST REPLIES some of the content is not a reply to anything; it's an opening post. So a better heading might be:
Latest posts
UPPERCASE, Initial Caps or Sentence case
In lieu of
STAFF ONLINE NOW
MEMBERS ONLINE NOW
MEMBERS ONLINE NOW
I suggest
Staff online now
Members online now
Members online now
Ambiguity
To the right of the statistics, the icon is ambiguous. And without a written heading I can't tell whether it's a list of:
- recent posts in any topic
- recent topics
- popular topics
- popular posts
Separators and ellipses
I suggest showing a line above the section that includes statistics and the ambiguous icon.
Also, to complement the very pale + sign at far right above each line of separation, I suggest an ellipsis below the line, at the left, appearing bold and black (because the obscured sub-forum headings, when revealed, will be bold and black). If not black, then match the colour for the section.
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http://xenforums.macrumors.com/search/568/ finding my older messages is potentially painfully convoluted. After many clicks I found at most 200 posts, then the total went down to 197.
"You may view all recent posts instead."
Screenshot attached. It took me a long time to figure out how to view all recent posts.
To anonymous users (window to the left of the screenshot), it's obvious; there's a 'Recent Posts' button.
To logged in users, it's less obvious; there's no button.
In the absence of a 'Recent Posts' button, I imagined that 'New Profile Posts' was, in the new design, synonymous with recent posts. I became disoriented.
Eventually I realised that the hyperlinked text is the same colour as the unlinked text.
Screenshot attached. It took me a long time to figure out how to view all recent posts.
To anonymous users (window to the left of the screenshot), it's obvious; there's a 'Recent Posts' button.
To logged in users, it's less obvious; there's no button.
In the absence of a 'Recent Posts' button, I imagined that 'New Profile Posts' was, in the new design, synonymous with recent posts. I became disoriented.
Eventually I realised that the hyperlinked text is the same colour as the unlinked text.
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In the first two, the invitation to 'Mark Forums Read' and the link to 'Recent Posts' were visible; probably because there was a new post (still listed as new, after it had been read).
A little later, that post was de-listed and I no longer see 'Mark Forums Read' or 'Recent Posts'.
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Arn and co., would you like to open a separate topic for these observations on style/design?
(On one hand, I'm aware that style stuff detracts from the immediate focus on migration. On the other hand, it's typically whilst ploughing through stuff in this way that I find things that may confuse members on day one )
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Search routine usability, including Tab and Command-Click
The first click on the magnifying glass does not place the blinking cursor in the field. Unless I'm missing something, the simplest routine involves five actions:
Critically: Tab key fails to place the blinking cursor in the field.
For action (2), some users may not realise that minimal movement will suffice. Expect those users to perform extreme movement of the pointer – from right to left, as they aim for the second appearance of the magnifier.
Then, a move from extreme left (cancel) to extreme right (third appearance of the magnifier (reappearance in its first position)) may be an annoyance to users who treat point-and-click as the sole, or primary, method of navigating the screen.
With apologies for repetition: it's bad, for accessibility, to have the action menu icon in lieu of the first magnifier when the magnifier moves from right to left. An enlarged cursor will too easily obscure the change of icon – screenshot attached.
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Whilst I remain conscious of the focus on migration, it may be prudent to fix or alleviate at least one of the problems outlined above.
Re https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=21309588#post21309588 on page one of this topic, the improvements since then are noted with thanks. If we're less than a day away from final migration then I should cherry pick just one thing. Please:
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Beyond that … if you seek a relatively quick and simple workaround for the 'extreme movement' aspect, my gut says … in response to the first click on the magnifier, in lieu of –
– you could have –
– or (maybe more contentiously) to address the concerns about volatility of the magnifier and obscurity of the actions menu:
Command-Click (open in new tab) and the like
Command-click behaviours could be better. At present (and this is probably also true of the vBulletin environment). Wherever the UI response to Command-Click is not ideal I find it necessary to click then right click then move the pointer then again click; that's relatively cumbersome.
I suggest adding, somewhere, a visible plain english 'Search…' – linked, with reference to http://xenforums.macrumors.com/search/ (or whatever the URL will be following migration). A simple, plain word that can be command-clicked.
The first click on the magnifying glass does not place the blinking cursor in the field. Unless I'm missing something, the simplest routine involves five actions:
- click
- move the pointer a little to the left
- click
- type
- key Enter or Return …
Critically: Tab key fails to place the blinking cursor in the field.
For action (2), some users may not realise that minimal movement will suffice. Expect those users to perform extreme movement of the pointer – from right to left, as they aim for the second appearance of the magnifier.
Then, a move from extreme left (cancel) to extreme right (third appearance of the magnifier (reappearance in its first position)) may be an annoyance to users who treat point-and-click as the sole, or primary, method of navigating the screen.
With apologies for repetition: it's bad, for accessibility, to have the action menu icon in lieu of the first magnifier when the magnifier moves from right to left. An enlarged cursor will too easily obscure the change of icon – screenshot attached.
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Whilst I remain conscious of the focus on migration, it may be prudent to fix or alleviate at least one of the problems outlined above.
Re https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=21309588#post21309588 on page one of this topic, the improvements since then are noted with thanks. If we're less than a day away from final migration then I should cherry pick just one thing. Please:
- fix keyboard navigation for the search field
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Beyond that … if you seek a relatively quick and simple workaround for the 'extreme movement' aspect, my gut says … in response to the first click on the magnifier, in lieu of –
Cancel | Magnifier | Search Forum… … e x p a n s e … o f … w h i t e … s p a c e … | Actions
– you could have –
… e x p a n s e … o f … w h i t e … s p a c e … Search … | Magnifier | Cancel | Actions
– with the blinking cursor aligned to the right, so that
search text grows to the left of the cursor as the user types
– with the blinking cursor aligned to the right, so that
search text grows to the left of the cursor as the user types
– or (maybe more contentiously) to address the concerns about volatility of the magnifier and obscurity of the actions menu:
… e x p a n s e … o f … w h i t e … s p a c e … Search … | Actions | Cancel | Magnifier
Command-Click (open in new tab) and the like
Command-click behaviours could be better. At present (and this is probably also true of the vBulletin environment). Wherever the UI response to Command-Click is not ideal I find it necessary to click then right click then move the pointer then again click; that's relatively cumbersome.
I suggest adding, somewhere, a visible plain english 'Search…' – linked, with reference to http://xenforums.macrumors.com/search/ (or whatever the URL will be following migration). A simple, plain word that can be command-clicked.
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Profanity filter
Early in the open test, someone observed that a profanity filter was not yet effective.
That's still the case, and I'm certain that the existing filter (in the vBulletin environment) misses some nasty stuff.
Screenshot available on request; I deleted my offending post very quickly. Hint: if you're of a sensitive disposition, please don't request sight ;-)
Early in the open test, someone observed that a profanity filter was not yet effective.
That's still the case, and I'm certain that the existing filter (in the vBulletin environment) misses some nasty stuff.
Screenshot available on request; I deleted my offending post very quickly. Hint: if you're of a sensitive disposition, please don't request sight ;-)
Forum rules; answers to frequently asked questions (FAQ)
In the vBulletin environment, the link to FAQ / Rules is prominent (very close to the Front Page link).
Currently at http://xenforums.macrumors.com and within topics there is no obvious link to rules or FAQ.
In the vBulletin environment, the link to FAQ / Rules is prominent (very close to the Front Page link).
Currently at http://xenforums.macrumors.com and within topics there is no obvious link to rules or FAQ.
@arn or anyone: please ! REPORT (but do not delete) my post at http://xenforums.macrumors.com/thre...ng-soon-to-apple-watch.1886794/#post-21361306 leading to an infraction, so that I/we can see both:
Primarily I'd like to check the standard form(s) of wording that may be within a notification. Simple proof-reading freedom from 404 errors, sanity with regard to the redesign (currently without the traditional link to rules) and so on.
TIA
- the yellow card, if that's still implemented (I wonder whether other members see that card); and
- the private notification, to me, of the infraction.
Primarily I'd like to check the standard form(s) of wording that may be within a notification. Simple proof-reading freedom from 404 errors, sanity with regard to the redesign (currently without the traditional link to rules) and so on.
TIA
I reported your post, then as a mod handled the report and issued you a warning. You should receive a "conversation" (PM) with the warning for a frivolous post. There is no yellow card or any indication to other members that a warning was issued.
I made an edit to your post and you can see an edit note at the top right of the post.
Please let me know here once you have received the warning, so I can remove it from your moderation record.
Thanks for the help testing.
Wanted to login with my G+ account on the new Xeonforum and got this:
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Might be addressed here by arn: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=21376220#post21376220
Might be addressed here by arn: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=21376220#post21376220
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